tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post8384936598591188411..comments2023-10-31T09:13:27.144-07:00Comments on The Cat Box: Maddening Hearts in the Last Year of Innocence, pt 4Catherine Viberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-15730025892639815072009-03-01T17:47:00.000-08:002009-03-01T17:47:00.000-08:00catvibe...I can relate to wanting them both...good...catvibe...I can relate to wanting them both...good writing and I can relate to heading out for the beech!<BR/>LindaLinda S. Sochahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03281672541959206302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-24705943671331729572009-02-28T07:31:00.000-08:002009-02-28T07:31:00.000-08:00Cynthia-I know! She wants them both. I'm glad yo...Cynthia-I know! She wants them both. I'm glad you liked the beach description. It was fun to write and makes me want to be at the beach NOW!Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-73475143269256889332009-02-28T06:03:00.000-08:002009-02-28T06:03:00.000-08:00Wow! your description of this dayand especially of...Wow! your description of this day<BR/>and especially of Joel-on-the-water<BR/>is amazing. Ah, what a dilemma,<BR/>Joel or Gavin, or both in a perfect<BR/>paradise.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10256391836026637655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-46758383069675286962009-02-24T12:07:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:07:00.000-08:00Jason- It really is freeing. And that day I think...Jason- It really is freeing. And that day I think she felt the joys of the present moment in a way that only the beach could give her.<BR/><BR/>I miss the beach. Gotta get me some beach this summer for sure.Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-1656779252519149962009-02-24T07:02:00.000-08:002009-02-24T07:02:00.000-08:00I really like the poem. It's so freeing whenever ...I really like the poem. It's so freeing whenever we can write about a moment when we're actually experiencing it. This journal series really captures that feel of immediacy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-80031525116749959602009-02-22T02:42:00.000-08:002009-02-22T02:42:00.000-08:00Julie- Thank you so much! From the tips of your f...Julie- Thank you so much! From the tips of your fingers, to the eyes of would be publishers my dear. ;-) I would gladly enter a publishing contract to finish this story, but until then it'll come to you in this very slow and unsatisfying way since you have no control over how fast you can turn the pages. <BR/><BR/>Linda-A journal within a journal, I like that! I think even more than James Dean, a modern day equivalent of Gavin would be Robert Downy Jr., who also happens to be afflicted with bipolar disorder.Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-78114306206943035842009-02-21T00:03:00.000-08:002009-02-21T00:03:00.000-08:00This is a great concept ...a journal within a jour...This is a great concept ...a journal within a journal. I think Sara's James Dean comparison sounds right....I wonder if we project our secret desires for adventure and more personal freedom and less responsibility on a man about town and act them out through him...Not sure that is love but it can cause heart racing<BR/>LindaLinda S. Sochahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03281672541959206302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-4189522795974796022009-02-20T15:33:00.000-08:002009-02-20T15:33:00.000-08:00I love it, Cat! You always keep me on the edge of...I love it, Cat! You always keep me on the edge of my seat. I love the description of the beach and the sexual tension. Very intense. <BR/><BR/>Besides the descriptions, another line I loved was: <BR/>"Something about these Southern California waters that’s like coming home to the womb." What a wonderful way to describe that feeling. <BR/><BR/>I love the journal format. This could be an entire novel. I'll buy it!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-59818440193793213552009-02-20T12:48:00.000-08:002009-02-20T12:48:00.000-08:00Aggie, I hope you are buying that place on the bea...Aggie, I hope you are buying that place on the beach you posted about a few weeks back, so I can come and do some research (some distant day), on New Zealand beaches! :-)Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-19070041827825958012009-02-20T12:47:00.000-08:002009-02-20T12:47:00.000-08:00Hi Vesper! I think you bring up a good point abou...Hi Vesper! I think you bring up a good point about the rape. She may write about that at some point in more detail later, but until then I would ask you to consider whether what you are thinking and what she are thinking that rape is may be vastly different ideas. Also, I think she has always suspected that there were mental issues with him, and knowing he is bipolar rationalizes now his misbehavior in the past to some extent. Partly also, it has to do with her personality type. She seems to live comfortably in shades of gray, where others may require more black and white. I don't want to give away too much more than that tho... I appreciate your feedback very much, it helps me to think about these questions, and I don't want to discourage it.Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-35676531140647991692009-02-20T11:57:00.000-08:002009-02-20T11:57:00.000-08:00Its funny how settings can entwine you with the pe...Its funny how settings can entwine you with the people you are there with. I love beach settings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-89539587310375113052009-02-20T05:50:00.000-08:002009-02-20T05:50:00.000-08:00Cat, you're certainly right when you say that she ...Cat, you're certainly right when you say that she doesn't know the answer yet. And this attraction has a power beyond her and beyond reason. It's true that there's little reason involved when you're "in love". I can perfectly understand the lure of the darkness, of the "bad boy", (I'm not a stranger to it myself) but - if I may - for me at least, what Gavin did to her is unpardonable. For me, <I>rape</I> would be unpardonable.<BR/><BR/>I must apologise because, obviously, this is not my story and I do not intend, not for one moment, to suggest to you where to go with it. It is a very interesting story because it delves into these obscure realms of the mind and heart. As no two people are alike, no reasons could be alike. <BR/><BR/>These discussions are a sign - I think - that it's indeed a very good story. I'm very much looking forward to reading more. :-)Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-64476666392563049462009-02-20T03:17:00.000-08:002009-02-20T03:17:00.000-08:00Sarah- That's right, she is the cracker to his nut...Sarah- That's right, she is the cracker to his nutshell. She can not help herself at this point. <BR/><BR/>Jennifer-That is so sweet and romantic! I could just see you two on that date...<BR/><BR/>K. It does my heart so good to know you read it like a bowl of ice cream! I think that day was her bowl of ice cream too, except that little hang up part.<BR/><BR/>Karen- You got it! That is pretty much the axis for her rotation! And it is all unconscious, she just knows she is hooked. Can't exorcise him from her consciousness. Heathcliff..LOVE IT! ;-)Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-89419591521195384672009-02-19T17:46:00.000-08:002009-02-19T17:46:00.000-08:00I read an article recently that provides some evid...I read an article recently that provides some evidence that girls are attracted to men with a "dark triad" of traits -- impulsiveness, narcissism, and thrill-seeking behaviors. Watching Joel surf (a dolphin, a fish) just doesn't give her that same thrill that being with Gavin does. Why does she love him? Think James Dean. Think HEATHCLIFF! <BR/><BR/>This entry is wonderfully detailed. It really is a sweet we are eating layer by layer.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12003379181294550035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-46285919508850095952009-02-19T16:58:00.000-08:002009-02-19T16:58:00.000-08:00I was reading this like I eat a bowl of ice cream....I was reading this like I eat a bowl of ice cream...Slowly, savoring every bite(word), making approving little sounds (mmm, oh man, wow), scraping the bowl(going back over a line two or three times), letting out my breath when I have taken the last bite(read the last word), and going back to the freezer for more(starting at the top again to read it over)!!<BR/><BR/>Really great writing. Loved the descriptions. I couldn't believe the last line...she is so hung up on Gavin. -K.Lawson Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11204234196229710524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-34760327439356364492009-02-19T16:15:00.000-08:002009-02-19T16:15:00.000-08:00Cat, the description in here was amazing. I can't...Cat, the description in here was amazing. I can't help but picture the journal entry if she had been there with Gavin. All of the coming back to life, I think, would have been absent. Or maybe not--there is so much power in the beach. Sometimes I think I married my husband because he took me there on our first date, in the evening, he in a blazer and khakis, me in something black and not at all beach-y, and still even from the sidelines it pulled me...to him. :)jazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09559917865938143791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-24381655063319956262009-02-19T11:16:00.000-08:002009-02-19T11:16:00.000-08:00I think she loves him, in part, because she couldn...I think she loves him, in part, because she couldn't explain it if she tried. There is mystery in that darkness, and endless depths to climb and fall. Joel will never compare, because he is like that surfboard, hoping to capture some waves, but never sinking further into her than some nice, surface grazes. <BR/><BR/>I loved, loved, loved all the beach observations, Cat. You made my California roots lean westward. ;) <BR/><BR/>A perfect day...almost.Sarah Hinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13888406261817690010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-6006668857215918592009-02-19T10:32:00.000-08:002009-02-19T10:32:00.000-08:00Khaled and Vesper, thank you! I will answer you b...Khaled and Vesper, thank you! I will answer you both with this:<BR/><BR/><BR/>She doesn't know yet the answer that you seek, she only knows she is 'crazy' for him. It is a whole year of journaling for the story to unfold. We are still at the first two weeks! ;-) Be patient dear readers, the layers will be relentlessly peeled back as she tries to figure out the answers and gets to know Gavin more and more intimately. <BR/><BR/>Does anyone ever really know why they love someone?Catherine Viberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01354073276671196477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-40458443225516192072009-02-19T10:16:00.000-08:002009-02-19T10:16:00.000-08:00What a wonderful account of that day at the beach!...What a wonderful account of that day at the beach!<BR/><BR/><I>I want to spend weeks and weeks of todays. I want to walk on the beach forever.</I> - I love this!!!<BR/><BR/>Yes, you have to explore a little bit more the reasons of her attraction to Gavin. Although, it's difficult because it's her journal so she might not want to reveal these things, not even to herself...Vesperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12417602625059442986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6065576345622223007.post-59491429614472060222009-02-19T09:32:00.000-08:002009-02-19T09:32:00.000-08:00It is obvious that she would love to enjoy that ti...It is obvious that she would love to enjoy that time with Gavin instead of Joel. I am still waiting (for some time now) to see what makes her loves the guy after all he did to her and to other women. I already mentioned that. <BR/>I feel that deep inside she is still waiting for a miracle to happen that justifies her attachment to Gavin.<BR/>I liked the description of Joel surfing, the ambiance around her and how she starts gradually to feel good about herself and life around her...Khaled KEMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16056388277824598564noreply@blogger.com